Legislature(2013 - 2014)BARNES 124

02/27/2014 08:00 AM House COMMUNITY & REGIONAL AFFAIRS


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08:04:54 AM Start
08:06:31 AM SB123
08:35:25 AM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ SB 123 PROHIBIT USE OF CELL PHONE WHILE DRIVING TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
        SB 123-PROHIBIT USE OF CELL PHONE WHILE DRIVING                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:06:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR NAGEAK announced  that the only order  of business would                                                               
be SENATE  BILL NO.  123, "An Act  authorizing a  municipality to                                                               
adopt  an ordinance  prohibiting the  use of  cellular telephones                                                               
while driving in school zones or on school property."                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:06:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KEVIN  MEYER, Alaska State  Legislature, speaking  as the                                                               
sponsor  of  SB   123,  explained  that  SB   123  would  provide                                                               
municipalities the ability to pass  a local ordinance to prohibit                                                               
the  use of  cell  phones while  driving in  school  zones or  on                                                               
school  property.    This  legislation,  he  highlighted,  simply                                                               
allows municipalities  the option to  pass such an  ordinance and                                                               
doesn't specify  how it  would be crafted.   The  legislation was                                                               
precipitated by  a constituent who,  when dropping off  his child                                                               
at school,  was rear-ended  by an individual  speaking on  a cell                                                               
phone in a  school zone.  Currently,  this constituent volunteers                                                               
as  a crossing  guard, a  position  in which  he observes  people                                                               
driving in the  school zone who are in a  hurry, using their cell                                                               
phone, and  not paying attention.   This constituent  worked with                                                               
the Municipality of  Anchorage Assembly for some  time to address                                                               
this, but ultimately it was  determined that enabling legislation                                                               
is necessary before the municipality  can pass such an ordinance.                                                               
Senator  Meyer  noted  that Municipality  of  Anchorage  Assembly                                                               
Chairman Ernie Hall, Anchorage  School District Superintendent Ed                                                               
Graff, and Anchorage  Mayor Dan Sullivan all support SB  123.  He                                                               
then pointed out that there is no  fiscal note for SB 123 as it's                                                               
merely enabling legislation.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:10:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR LEDOUX said she understood  this in terms of a hand-held                                                               
device,  but didn't  see  much difference  between  talking on  a                                                               
speaker phone and talking to someone in the vehicle.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MEYER noted  his agreement,  adding that  in the  Senate                                                               
there was discussion regarding whether  cell phones are more of a                                                               
distraction  than pets  or smoking  in the  vehicle.   Again, the                                                               
details,  such  as  whether  hand-held   devices  are  or  aren't                                                               
acceptable,  would  be  left  up to  the  local  municipality  to                                                               
determine.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:11:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  LEDOUX  asked  whether  the  sponsor  felt  that  other                                                               
municipalities across  the state  would be  likely to  enact such                                                               
ordinances.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MEYER answered that he  wasn't sure, but pointed out that                                                               
assemblies are  closer to the people  and that one of  the number                                                               
one  concerns  of  parents  [in  his  district]  is  the  traffic                                                               
congestion when dropping off and picking up students at school.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:12:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  NAGEAK pointed  out that  when a  driver is  talking to                                                               
someone  the driver  can still  keep  his/her eyes  on the  road.                                                               
However,  cell  phones  allow texting,  which  he  emphasized  is                                                               
dangerous and of concern in school zones.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  LEDOUX  reminded  the   committee  that  texting  while                                                               
driving is already illegal in Alaska.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:13:21 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MEYER  suggested that although [an  ordinance prohibiting                                                               
the use  of cell phones  in school  zones or on  school property]                                                               
won't  completely  eliminate  their  use,  it  provides  crossing                                                               
guards,  volunteers, and  principals  the  opportunity to  remind                                                               
folks it is against the law.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:14:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  REINBOLD   began  by  stating  her   belief  that                                                               
responsibility can't  be legislated.   She related  that although                                                               
she received one  response in opposition to SB  123, she recalled                                                               
her  experience as  a substitute  teacher and  parent and  opined                                                               
this  legislation  makes sense.    She  then asked  whether  this                                                               
legislation allows the municipalities to  make the decision as to                                                               
whether to  allow texting from  those sitting  in a vehicle  in a                                                               
parking lot waiting for their child to exit school.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MEYER  reiterated that the  limitations would be  left to                                                               
the local  municipality.   He noted his  agreement that  when the                                                               
vehicle is  stopped parents will likely  want to be able  to call                                                               
their children  while waiting for  them outside the school.   The                                                               
concern, he  emphasized, is if  the driver while  driving through                                                               
the chaos that occurs in school  zones is talking on his/her cell                                                               
phone.   Senator  Meyer didn't  have too  much concern  for those                                                               
cases in which  individuals are using their cell  phones when the                                                               
vehicle is stationary.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  REINBOLD opined  that high  schools are  the most                                                               
chaotic zones.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:16:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KITO III  said that he liked that  the proposal is                                                               
a  local  option.    With  regard  to  Representative  Reinbold's                                                               
concerns, Representative Kito  III pointed out that  using a cell                                                               
phone while  parked in  a school  zone is  likely okay  since the                                                               
legislation refers  to "operating a  motor vehicle".   He related                                                               
his  observation that  there  have been  several  changes in  the                                                               
school zones  in Juneau.   He opined that intense  enforcement at                                                               
the beginning of the school  year and periodic checks later could                                                               
discourage [the use of cell phones in school zones].                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:17:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  OLSON informed  the  committee that  a number  of                                                               
studies have  found that talking on  a cell phone via  blue tooth                                                               
as  well  as  talking  with  others  in  the  car  is  considered                                                               
distracted driving  and causes almost  as many accidents  as does                                                               
talking  on  a cell  phone  while  driving.   Distracted  driving                                                               
includes eating,  applying makeup,  shaving, and  turning around;                                                               
basically anything that takes the  driver's eyes off the road has                                                               
the  possibility to  lead to  an accident.   He  noted that  some                                                               
states  are  considering  banning  [any] cell  phone  [use  while                                                               
driving].   He reviewed  the fines for  using a  hand-held device                                                               
while  driving  in California,  which  he  surmised seems  to  be                                                               
working.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:18:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR LEDOUX,  returning to Representative  Reinbold's earlier                                                               
question,  related  her belief  that  the  language "operating  a                                                               
motor  vehicle" likely  includes  when a  vehicle  is stopped  or                                                               
parked.   She reminded members  that under the driving  under the                                                               
influence (DUI)  laws, an  individual in  a vehicle  with his/her                                                               
key  in the  ignition  is  considered to  be  "operating a  motor                                                               
vehicle."                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:19:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
EDRA  MORELEDGE,   Staff,  Senator  Kevin  Meyer,   Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature, clarified  that SB 123  does not intend  to prohibit                                                               
parents  from  pulling  up  to the  sidewalk  and  texting  their                                                               
children.    She related  her  belief  that the  Municipality  of                                                               
Anchorage wouldn't include [such  a prohibition] as the intention                                                               
is to  address cell  phone use  in a moving  vehicle in  a school                                                               
zone,  and thus  the language  of  an ordinance  would likely  be                                                               
crafted to  accommodate such  cell phone  use as  described above                                                               
[in a stationary/parked] vehicle.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:20:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HERRON inquired as  to what the sponsor considered                                                               
to be reasonable enforcement parameters.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MEYER acknowledged that  enforcement is always difficult,                                                               
particularly since the proposal in  SB 123 would only be enforced                                                               
when  police are  present  in school  zones,  which he  indicated                                                               
would  be a  periodic  occurrence.   Senator  Meyer related  that                                                               
although it  was difficult  for him  to sponsor  this legislation                                                               
because  he  doesn't like  to  legislate  how people  live  their                                                               
lives, in  this case  SB 123 is  merely enabling  legislation for                                                               
the local municipalities.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:22:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HERRON remarked that  he likes the legislation and                                                               
believes it would be smart  for the legislature and any community                                                               
to enact  the appropriate language  so that the charge  is higher                                                               
than  negligent driving  or involuntary  manslaughter.   He  then                                                               
related  that he  was rear-ended  by  a driver  who was  texting,                                                               
which he suggested is an addiction.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MEYER noted  his  agreement  that SB  123  will not  end                                                               
texting while  driving, but opined  it provides another  tool for                                                               
the principal and the Parent Teacher Associations.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:24:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HERRON  related  his preference  to  clarify  the                                                               
meaning  of   the  language  "operating  a   motor  vehicle"  and                                                               
indicated he could recommend such a clarifying amendment.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MEYER stated  that he is amenable to  such suggestions or                                                               
amendments to SB 123 as there is plenty of time to make changes.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:25:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KITO III asked if  state troopers have the ability                                                               
to enforce a local ordinance.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MEYER, noting  that he  would double-check,  offered his                                                               
belief that  state troopers in  Anchorage have the right  to pull                                                               
over people.   He further offered his belief  that state troopers                                                               
would be the enforcers in rural areas of the state.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:26:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   REINBOLD   moved   that  the   committee   adopt                                                               
Conceptual  Amendment 1,  which  would exempt  parked  cars.   No                                                               
objection was stated.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:27:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HERRON  suggested  that  it  would  be  best  for                                                               
Conceptual  Amendment  1  to be  reviewed  by  Legislative  Legal                                                               
Services.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:28:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR NAGEAK opened public testimony.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:28:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MIKE COONS highlighted  the various laws on the  books today that                                                               
elevate already  existing simple laws, such  as domestic violence                                                               
that is  an elevation of simple  assault to felony assault.   The                                                               
same  is  the case  for  the  proposal in  SB  123  as there  are                                                               
existing  traffic laws  for distracted  driving.   He  questioned                                                               
whether the  courts would  do anything  in response  to elevating                                                               
talking on  a cell  phone or  whether it would  be just  one more                                                               
thing  that courts  ignore.   As mentioned  earlier, there  is an                                                               
existing law prohibiting  texting while driving and  it carries a                                                               
penalty of  1 year in jail  and a $5,000 fine,  and he questioned                                                               
how much  the texting law is  being enforced.  Mr.  Coons related                                                               
his  belief   in  limited  government,  and   thus  he  suggested                                                               
enforcing  the existing  traffic  laws,  including texting  while                                                               
driving and distracted driving.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:31:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR NAGEAK announced his intent to  hold SB 123 in order for                                                               
Legislative Legal Services to review some amendments.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:32:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  REINBOLD,  noting  that  the  next  committee  of                                                               
referral, the  House Judiciary Standing Committee,  could address                                                               
the aforementioned concern, withdrew Conceptual Amendment 1.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:34:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR NAGEAK closed public testimony.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:34:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HERRON  moved to  report SB  123 out  of committee                                                               
with individual  recommendations, the accompanying  fiscal notes,                                                               
and  a  note suggesting  a  committee  substitute be  drafted  to                                                               
address  the  concerns  discussed.   There  being  no  objection,                                                               
SB 123 was reported from the House Community and Regional                                                                       
Affairs Standing Committee.                                                                                                     

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 123 ver A.pdf HCRA 2/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
SB 123
SB 123 Sponsor Statement.pdf HCRA 2/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
SB 123
SB 123 Fiscal Note DPS.pdf HCRA 2/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
SB 123
SB 123 Legal Memo.pdf HCRA 2/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
SB 123
SB 123 Uniform Traffic Laws Title 28.pdf HCRA 2/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
SB 123
SB 123 Letter of Support Miller.pdf HCRA 2/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
SB 123
SB 123 Letter of Support Sullivan.pdf HCRA 2/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
SB 123
SB 123 Letter of Support Wight.pdf HCRA 2/27/2014 8:00:00 AM
SB 123